Episode 17
with Patricia Stepler, mindset and productivity coach, life coach and author, Your Dream Power · February 25, 2022 · 18 min
Patricia Stepler is a mindset and productivity coach who taught school, including music, for several decades before starting Your Dream Power.
Her son told her for six years that he would earn a college scholarship, went into every practice and game with that intention, and received a full academic scholarship.
Patricia says most people give up on a goal the first time their plan goes wrong, when they should treat it as a stop sign and find a new path.
Her biggest lesson as an entrepreneur is that you have to become the person who reaches the goal first, because the person you are today only got you this far.
Her formula for a bigger life is to think bigger, play bigger and become bigger, which means getting outside your comfort zone.
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What is this episode about?
Kathi Burns, CPO®, Business FLOW Strategist, talks with Patricia Stepler, a mindset and productivity coach who uses a three-step system to help business leaders and entrepreneurs achieve their goals. Patricia taught school, including music, for several decades. Her coaching work began when her son, who had told her for six years that he would get a scholarship, opened a letter with a full academic scholarship to a D3 school, and she set out to learn how he did it. You'll hear why most people give up the first time a plan goes wrong, what Patricia does when she feels burned out, how to decide what freedom means to you, why you have to become the person first if you want to achieve your goals, and how a self-described introvert learned to come out of her shell and live bigger.
You have to allow yourself to become the person first.Patricia Stepler
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What are the key takeaways?
- Patricia's son repeated his scholarship goal to himself every time he went to a practice or a game, and he says he said it to himself a hundred times more than he said it to his mother.
- Patricia says the path to a goal is rarely straight; when something goes wrong, treat it as a stop sign and find a new path instead of deciding it didn't work.
- Kathi says there is no four-color brochure for a goal, but if you keep the end in mind, the rest fills in around you.
- When she feels burned out, Patricia puts on good music or reads something inspirational, and Kathi moves between motivational, spiritual and fiction books.
- Freedom means something different to everyone, so Patricia says to decide first what kind you want; for her it was the freedom to travel and sometimes take her family.
- Patricia's biggest lesson is that wishes don't come true until you become the person who can reach them.
- She says the subconscious mind is set up to keep you comfortable and safe, so getting something bigger means stepping outside your comfort zone and building a new thought process.

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Patricia Stepler became a mindset coach after her son talked his way to a full college scholarship and she set out to learn how he did it. She had taught school for several decades and studied personal development all her life without the success she wanted. Once she found the answers, she decided to share them.
How did her son get a full scholarship?
He went into every practice and every game with the intention "I'm getting a scholarship." Patricia's son told her for six years he would get one, even after he chose baseball, where college coaches say full scholarships are rare. His letter brought a full academic scholarship at a D3 school. He told her later that for every time he said it to her, he said it a hundred more times to himself.
Why do people give up on their goals?
Patricia says people give up because they think they have a plan, and the first time something goes wrong they decide it didn't work. Her son's path was full of disappointments, including not getting onto a team he thought would lead to a scholarship. He treated each one as a stop sign and found a new path.
What do mindset coaching clients want?
Most of Patricia's clients come to her because they want more money, and some want better relationships with the people they work with. She says that once the money is solved, you have more time for what you really want to do.
What should you do when you feel burned out in your business?
Patricia's fix is to put on good music or pick up a good book. She says reading something inspirational turns her around. Kathi adds that she moves between motivational, spiritual and fiction books, because every book has a message for you.
How can you create more freedom in your business?
Start by deciding what kind of freedom you want, because it means something different to everybody. Patricia asks whether it is financial freedom or the time and money to do what you want when you want. For her, it was the freedom to travel and sometimes take her family, and her goal became a trip once a quarter, mixing training with vacation. Kathi likes to add three days of travel after a retreat or conference.
How do you become the person who can achieve your goals?
You have to see yourself accomplishing exactly what you want before it happens, and accept that you will need to become somebody different. Patricia says the person you are today got you to where you are, but going further takes a different person. For her, as an introvert, that meant coming out of her shell and overcoming her own fears and procrastination.
How do you get out of your comfort zone?
Patricia says you start by deciding on a bigger goal, seeing yourself as the person who reaches it, and then playing on a bigger stage. She says the subconscious mind is set up to keep you comfortable and safe, so you have to push past it and build a new thought process. Her Live Bigger event was built on three things done together: think bigger, play bigger, become bigger.
Where does each part of the conversation start?
- 0:00 Meet Patricia Stepler
- 0:31 Her journey
- 0:42 Decades as a teacher
- 1:15 Her son's medical challenges
- 1:48 "I'm going to get a scholarship"
- 2:26 No money in baseball
- 2:39 A full scholarship
- 3:14 Figuring out how he did it
- 4:01 Every practice, every game
- 4:42 We give up at the first stop sign
- 5:11 No four-color brochure
- 5:46 Searching for answers
- 6:26 Kids living in hopelessness
- 7:01 What her clients want
- 7:24 Double or triple your income
- 8:01 Her burnout fix
- 8:22 Immerse yourself in a book
- 8:41 Creating more freedom
- 9:52 What does freedom mean to you?
- 10:44 The biggest lesson
- 11:07 Become the person first
- 11:48 Coming out of her shell
- 12:33 An introvert on stage
- 13:27 Live bigger
- 13:53 Get out of your comfort zone
- 14:37 Her Live Bigger event
- 14:46 Three things to do together
- 15:29 Overcoming fear and procrastination
- 16:59 Wrap-up
What resources were mentioned?
- Your Dream Power (Patricia Stepler's coaching site)
- Live Bigger, Patricia's three-day event
- Patricia's tips package for a bigger lifestyle and short video on overcoming fear and procrastination
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Kathi: Hi everyone. I am back with Patricia Stepler. She is the only mindset productivity coach who utilizes an innovative, proven three-step system for business leaders and entrepreneurs around the world who want to accomplish their goals. So, Patricia, thank you so much for being on the show. I really appreciate you being here.
Patricia: Thank you for having me today.
Kathi: Yeah, absolutely. So, productivity. You're a girl after my own heart, doing productivity. We all need that, right?
Patricia: Yes, we absolutely do.
Kathi: So, tell me about your journey. What did you do before you became an eminent productivity coach?
Patricia: So, my journey started as an educator. I taught school for several decades. And about the time I knew I could retire from teaching, my son did something very amazing to me. I had studied personal development my entire life, and yet I felt like I never achieved what I wanted to achieve through personal development. I tried to follow what they were saying, and I was a better person, no doubt. I was a better person, better teacher, better mom, better wife, but I didn't have the success I was looking for. And my son had a number of different medical issues from the time he was born, and he wanted to be an athlete. So he had a lot of medical baggage there that was an issue. And yet he told me, "Mom, you don't have to worry about putting me through school, through college," because my oldest daughter was in college and my second daughter was about ready to go. He said, "I'm going to get a scholarship." And I didn't believe he was going to get a scholarship. I never believed it, but I didn't tell him that. I just hugged him and thanked him. And every time he would mention it, which was many, many times, I would just say, "Oh, that's wonderful," and things like that. So, I always encouraged him. I never discouraged him, but in my heart, I didn't believe it. And especially when he decided it was going to be an athletic scholarship. And then he chose baseball. And in baseball, there really aren't full scholarships. If you're that good, you go pro. And so there is no money in baseball, which collegiate coaches will easily tell parents: "Forget it. If you think you're going to get a scholarship in baseball, it's not going to happen." And yet when his letter came, he had a full scholarship.
Kathi: Wow.
Patricia: Now, it wasn't an athletic one, because he went to a D3 school, but it was an academic one, and he manifested that. And the minute I saw that amount and knew he had a full scholarship, immediately I knew he had caused that to happen, but I didn't know how. And had I known, I would have encouraged him a whole lot more for the six years he was telling me this. But at that point, I was like, I've got to figure out how he did it. And so that started my journey. And once I discovered it, I had to share it with the world.
Kathi: Absolutely. Thought, word, deed, right? He was a magnificent manifester, especially someone who has the physical challenges that he has. He knew in his heart of hearts that he was going to do it. And I love the fact that he kept announcing it over and over, because I'm a big thought, word, deed person. You think it, you speak it, it manifests. And obviously he's a beautiful representation of that.
Patricia: He is. And what I think was interesting is he didn't know what he was doing. And as I discovered what he had done, I've been sharing it with him. And that's when, as you said about saying it over and over, what he told me was that every time he went to practice, whether it was football, basketball or baseball, and anytime he went to a game, he always went in there with the intention of "I'm getting a scholarship." So he said, "As many times as I said that to you, Mom, I said it a hundred more times to me."
Kathi: Yep.
Patricia: And he didn't realize at the time what he was doing.
Kathi: But the universe responds. It always does.
Patricia: Yes. Because it was not a straight path. Tons of disappointment along the way. He didn't get to play on a team he thought would take him to that scholarship. Things happened, but they had to happen that way, because he didn't have all the answers. He thought he had a plan. And that's what we do. We think we have a plan, and then the first time something goes wrong, we give up. And we say, "Well, that didn't work." And I saw how I did that many times in my own life, but thank goodness he did not. It was like, "Okay, that plan, we've got a stop sign here. So we've got to find a new path."
We think we have a plan, and then the first time something goes wrong, we give up.
Kathi: I love it. It reminds me of something that I learned a long time ago: God doesn't give you a four-color brochure, or source, or whoever you want to call it. There is no four-color brochure. But if you have the end in mind, all the other stuff will be painted around you. The hits and misses and the wins, and then boom, all of a sudden, what you thought all along is right there. Maybe it doesn't look exactly how you thought it would, but it's still there. The end result's still there, right? So I love that. So, okay. You decided at that point that you were going to explore, and then you decided you were going to start your business based on all the things that you had learned. Is that how it all happened?
Patricia: Exactly. Yes. I went on a search for people that had the answers that I needed. And when I started to discover the people and the resources, because they will come to you when you're searching, those resources always come. And so that sent me on my own journey. And then I decided I've got to share this with other people, because not only does my son have an amazing story to tell, and I can tell that through me, and actually, he's going to start telling his own story because he has a whole lot more to share. But it's just that the world needs to know, because what I saw when I was teaching was there were a lot of kids that lived in this hopelessness, and nobody should feel that way. But until we discover who we are and we discover what we want and we start to go after it, nothing much changes. And there's so much opportunity and things available if we open ourselves up to it.
There's so much opportunity and things available if we open ourselves up to it.
Kathi: So, now you're working with clients. What are your clients' challenges that you help them solve? How are they coming to you? What are they looking for, and how do you assist?
Patricia: So most of my clients come to me because they want more money. That's kind of a common thing. And sometimes they want better relationships, working with people. But ultimately, when you can solve the money thing, you have a lot more time left in your life to do things that you really want to do, and you have a lot more fun. So, ultimately, my goal is to help my clients double or triple their income in a year. And if they follow what I tell them to do, and they take it to heart and they open themselves up to it, they can do that.
Kathi: Absolutely. Okay. So, you've been cruising down the road. How long have you had your agency now?
Patricia: Six years.
Kathi: Okay. And I know at some point during your career, you've gotten a little bit overwhelmed or needed a recharge. What do you do whenever you feel a little bit out of sorts or burned out in your business? What's your secret hack?
Patricia: I think when I feel a little burnout, I find some good music or a good book to read, and look at what it's saying. Because a lot of times when you feel that burnout, if you can pick up a book and you start reading something inspirational, it turns you around.
Kathi: Mhm. I love books myself. So, definitely immerse yourself in a book. I go in between motivational, spiritual, fictional, whatever. It's like everything has a message for you. And I totally agree with that. That's great. So, do you have a hack, or what do you tell people when they want to create more freedom in their life? What's your advice for people who want more freedom, who feel tied in to their business? How do you create more freedom?
Patricia: So I think we have to decide first what kind of freedom. Are we looking for financial freedom? Are we looking to have freedom where we have the time and the money to do what we want to do when we want to do it? And I sort of look at it like right now in my life, because something I always wanted to do was to have the freedom to travel and to sometimes take my family with me. You have to have money to do that too, right? And I look at my schedule for the year, and my goal was to do a trip like once every quarter. I thought that would be way overwhelming. And then I look at my schedule and I'm like, I'm going to be gone here and here. And some of it's training, but some of it's vacation. And even when you're in training or you're doing things, you're still seeing a different part of the world or different cultures, and it's exciting. So, first we have to define exactly what freedom means to you, because it means something different to everybody. But whatever type of freedom that is, you can find it when you search within.
Kathi: Absolutely. It's a really good point, Patricia: what is freedom to you? Some people just think freedom is having a three-day weekend. Some people think, I have to go to Bali. Some people think, I just want a lot of money so I can go buy this thing. So, whatever it is, I totally agree. And I love doing retreats and doing conferences and then taking three days afterwards, right? Then you have your built-in trip.

Kathi: So, through doing this for six years, what lesson have you learned through having a business and being an entrepreneur?
Patricia: I think the biggest lesson I've learned is that you have to allow yourself to become the person first. We all have wishes and desires and things that we would like to have happen or would like to do. And early on, when I started my business, it was a wish. But wishes don't come true unless you become that person. So I think the biggest realization I've come up with is that you have to first be able to see yourself accomplishing exactly what you want to accomplish before it's ever going to happen. And chances are you have to become somebody different yourself. Because the person you are today has gotten you to where you are today. But the person you need to be in order to go further is somebody different.
The person you are today has gotten you to where you are today. But the person you need to be in order to go further is somebody different.
Kathi: I agree totally. As far as obstacles, have you had something that's really made you stuck when you were launching or throughout the course of your company?
Patricia: I think the biggest obstacle for me was to come out of my shell. I'm very much an introvert, and I could stay in a room by myself all day long and I'd be perfectly fine. But you can't help people if you're sitting in a room by yourself. So for me, it was to come out of my shell and realize that I had something that the world needed to hear, and to be willing to share that with people, and to overcome my own fears and procrastination and obstacles that I was putting in front of myself.
Kathi: That's so funny. You're an introvert, but you were a school teacher. So how does that work?
Patricia: So I was fine being in my classroom. I taught music, too. And if you put me on a stage, I was the person. I was that character, right? And so I could perform in front of people, but to just go and talk to people was a different story. Give me a script and I had it. I love to perform. But for me, that was different than actually having a conversation.
Kathi: Absolutely. There's a big difference. I can so relate to that. So I get you, Patricia, because I was a music major as well. So there you go. Okay. So if someone wants to create more freedom, what do you suggest to them? I know we've already touched on that word freedom. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think I know what you're going to say. So if I want more freedom, what am I supposed to do, Patricia?
Patricia: So I think you have to, first of all, come up with your goal. You have to live bigger, and you have to be willing to decide what that is. And then you have to become that person. You have to see yourself actually doing that. So we're going to become bigger, and then we have to play on a bigger stage. You can't get that freedom if you're stuck right where you are, because you're in a comfort zone. And as long as you stay in that comfort zone, our subconscious mind is programmed to keep us comfortable and keep us safe. But if you want something bigger than what you have, you have to be willing to get outside that comfort zone and to fight that subconscious mind and actually just build a new thought process.
If you want something bigger than what you have, you have to be willing to get outside that comfort zone.
Kathi: Get out of your comfort zone, think bigger, speak bigger, then you live bigger. It happens. I love that. Okay. So, speaking of bigger, you have an event coming up, and for those of you who are catching this in February and March, you're really good to go, because you can go ahead and get some discounts on this event. So let's talk about that a little bit.
Patricia: Yes, I'm having a three-day event called Live Bigger, in which I'm going to share this formula that you shared in my introduction. Because what I've noticed is that there are three common things that people have to do, and they have to be done almost simultaneously in order to achieve a bigger lifestyle. And when you can accomplish those three things together, you can think bigger, you can play bigger, you can become bigger, then you're on your way to just soar. And so that's what the whole three-day event is going to be about: how to put those three things together and to become that person.
Kathi: Love it. Okay, great. So there's going to be a discount for that event down below. And for those of you who miss that timing, I think there's also something else that people can grab.
Patricia: I'm putting together a little package for you on tips that you can use to create a bigger lifestyle for yourself, and also a short video on how to overcome fears and procrastination. Because we all have times when we're afraid of something and we're procrastinating. But if we understand what's causing it in our minds, then we can push through it and get to the other side. And once you get to the other side, it doesn't mean you'll never have fear or procrastination again. It just means that you can refer to your memory of what you accomplished before and move forward with new knowledge.
Kathi: That's fantastic. Make sure to download it. I think it's really important because it never ends. We always want to get bigger and bigger and bigger, and every time we want to get bigger, there's always going to be that niggly little thing that's like, I can't do that bigger thing. But yes, we can, absolutely. So download that sheet so that you can overcome whatever it is that you feel is blocking you right now. We all have something, and as we get bigger and as we expand, we're always going to have those niggly thoughts, but they can be trumped, right like that, if we have the right formula. So, oh boy, I'm excited to have you here, Patricia, and I really, really appreciate you spending time with us. I hope your event goes off. I know it's going to soar like an eagle, and I can't wait to see what you're up to next. So thanks again for your time, and make sure to download everything that we have down below here on this podcast. Thanks, Patricia.
Patricia: Thank you.
Where can I find the links and resources from this episode?
Connect with Patricia
- Your Dream Power
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Inspired? Here Are Your Action Steps:
- Write down the one goal you want most and say it to yourself every time you start work on it.
- When a plan falls through, treat it as a stop sign and pick a new path instead of quitting.
- Keep the end result in mind and let the details fill in as you go.
- Keep a good book or playlist on hand for days you feel burned out.
- Decide what freedom means to you before you plan for it.
- If you travel for training or conferences, add a few days to see the place.
- Picture yourself already doing what you want to accomplish, then ask who you need to become.
- Pick one thing outside your comfort zone this week and do it.
Frequently asked questions
Should I push myself out of my comfort zone?
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Patricia Stepler says yes, if you want something bigger than what you have. As long as you stay in your comfort zone, she says, you can't reach that bigger goal or the freedom that comes with it. Her own step was coming out of her shell as an introvert so she could share her work with people.
What happens psychologically when you are leaving your comfort zone?
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In Patricia's view, the subconscious mind is programmed to keep you comfortable and safe, so it pushes back when you try something bigger. She says you have to fight that and build a new thought process. Fear and procrastination still come back later, but you can remember what you accomplished before and move forward.
How to become a goal-oriented person?
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Patricia says to decide on your goal, see yourself actually doing it, and then become that person. Her son kept his goal in front of him by repeating it to himself before every practice and game. When something went wrong, he looked for a new path instead of giving up.
Why do people give up on their goals?
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Patricia says we think we have a plan, and the first time something goes wrong we decide it didn't work. Her son had many disappointments on the way to his scholarship but treated each one as a stop sign and found another route. Kathi adds that you don't get a four-color brochure, but if you keep the end in mind, the rest fills in around you.
How can you create more freedom in your business?
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First decide what freedom means to you, because it means something different to everybody. For Patricia it was the freedom to travel and sometimes bring her family. Kathi likes to add three days of travel after a retreat or conference.
Who is talking in this episode?

About the Host, Kathi Burns
Kathi Burns, CPO®, is a Business FLOW Strategist based in San Diego. For the last 20+ years, Kathi has helped clients create systems they can stick to. She is the author of How to Master Your Muck, Organizing With Tetris and Home Organization, The Smart Guide, and co-author of four more titles; all are in Kathi's shop. Kathi's business has been featured on Good Morning America, and her advice has been featured in Oprah Magazine, Martha Stewart Living, Better Homes and Gardens and Entrepreneur Magazine.
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About Patricia Stepler
Patricia Stepler is a mindset and productivity coach, life coach and author behind Your Dream Power. She uses a three-step system to help business leaders and entrepreneurs accomplish their goals, and offers executive coaching, business team consultation, individual and group life coaching, speaking and seminars, and programs and music for children and youth. Before coaching, she taught school, including music, for several decades. She started her business after her son told her for six years that he would earn a college scholarship and then received a full academic one; she set out to learn how he did it. A self-described introvert, she teaches a formula to think bigger, play bigger and become bigger.
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