Podcast topic
Growing a business without burning out means putting systems, delegation and protected time in place before you add more clients.
Which episodes answer “How do I grow my business without burning out?”?
SystemsEpisode 149How to Scale Your Business Without Burnout with Lia Dunlap
Lia Dunlap left corporate sales in 2008 and now helps wellness and transformation professionals grow their businesses without burning out.
MotherhoodEpisode 147How To Build a Village That Supports Your Business and Your Life with Carly Church
Carly Church founded We Got You Mama after burning out as the owner of a FIT4MOM fitness franchise in Los Angeles, where she tried to do everything herself.
BoundariesEpisode 143How to Say No Without Losing Momentum with Ginny Priem
Keynote speaker and author Ginny Priem says that when everything is urgent, nothing can actually be important, so what you don't do matters as much as what you do.
Self-CareEpisode 142How To Get Clear When Everything Feels Chaotic with Stephanie Wall Morrow
Wellness and lifestyle coach Stephanie Wall Morrow schedules time for herself every day, the same way she books any other appointment.
BoundariesEpisode 138How to break ancestral cycles of health and wealth intergenerational issues with Magdalena Grace
Magdalena Grace lost everything in the 2006 to 2008 real estate crash, then rebuilt as a personal trainer with her own studio and later as a sales coach.
ResilienceEpisode 136How to Make Failures Rule with Andrew Thorp King
Andrew Thorp King is the author of Failure Rules, a fintech banker and the founder of two independent record labels, Thorp Records and Sailor's Grave Records, which have put out more than 100 releases.
BurnoutEpisode 132How to Set Yourself Up for Success and Prevent Burnout with Daniela Wolfe
Daniela Wolfe, a licensed master's social worker and author of Balance Breakthrough, went through her own burnout about 20 years ago while going through a divorce with two very young children.
BoundariesEpisode 130How To Say No Without Guilt And Create Space For Success with Helene Rennervik
Coach Helene Rennervik created The Power of No Without Guilt, a program that helps high-achieving professionals set boundaries without feeling guilty.
ClarityEpisode 128How to Take Yourself from Chaos to Clarity with Meg King
Business coach Meg King helps women entrepreneurs solve "pricey problems," decisions or habits that quietly cost a business money, time, balance or peace of mind.
PurposeEpisode 127How to Heal the World in Partnership with Dolphins & Whales with Anne Gordon
Anne Gordon has been a zookeeper, a film and TV animal trainer, a tour operator in Panama and the woman who started whale watching in Panama.
RelationshipsEpisode 126How to harness the power of respectful relationships with Sarah Melissa Oswald
Relational leadership coach Sarah Melissa Oswald says every relationship, at home or at work, starts with the one you have with yourself.
IntuitionEpisode 124How to 3-10x Your Business with Intuition & Higher Guidance with Dr. Sophia Trevenna
Dr. Sophia Trevenna was a mechanical engineer at IBM with no spiritual practice when, she says, three different people mentioned her quitting her job in a single day.
MidlifeEpisode 122How to Thrive at Midlife with Annie Gaudreault
Nutritionist and Ironman triathlete Annie Gaudreault says that in her practice she sees many women at midlife think something is wrong with them, without realizing they are in perimenopause, a phase she says lasts 7 to 10 years on average.
MoneyEpisode 121How To Grow Your Money Using the 3 S's with Anna Felix
Anna Felix was widowed while already carrying heavy medical debt from a car accident five years earlier, so she started her financial rebuild below zero.
MoneyEpisode 117How to leverage your wealth to buy back your time to transform your time, energy with Nicole Connery
Nicole Connery, a financial strategist with a CPA background and almost 15 years advising finance executives, is on a mission to help 1 million women achieve financial freedom by 2028.
ParentingEpisode 116Connecting Deeply with Yourself and Loved Ones with Tammy J Cohen
Author Tammy J Cohen started texting her three grown sons a daily message of love, wisdom and gratitude during the 2020 pandemic, and those texts became her book Text Messages to My Sons.
MindsetEpisode 112How I overcame unlikely adversity and I can show you the same with Dwayne Morton
Former international basketball player Dwayne Morton lived for 18 years with a rare blood cancer diagnosis that, in March 2024, he learned was wrong; what he has is severe sleep apnea.
SystemsEpisode 111How To Streamline Your Coaching Workflow: Strategies for Maximum Efficiency with Trent True
Online strategist Trent True says the first step to a smoother business is an honest audit of the systems you depend on every day.
ReinventionEpisode 110How To…. Become the CEO of Your Career with Tammy Alvarez
Tammy Alvarez was a Wall Street C-suite executive managing 2,000 people in 54 countries when her work turned from invigorating to soul-crushing.
LegacyEpisode 107Live Like You're Living: Adultier Legacy Planning for Entrepreneurs with Colleen Watson
Colleen Watson is a former librarian who founded Century Plant Business Services after her mother's serious fall in April 2024 made her a full-time caretaker without a plan.
PurposeEpisode 106How to Create a Life Worth Reliving with Dawn Cortese
Dawn Cortese, founder and CEO of Healthy Goals, Healthy Living, spent more than 20 years in life science and IT consulting before she became a coach.
GrowthEpisode 104How to Turn Your Company into a Bonsai Business with Jim Shulman
Business coach Jim Shulman defines a Bonsai business as one that stays small but keeps its people, clients and offers as close to perfect as possible.
EnergyEpisode 103How to rise above adversity and shine with Sabrina Victoria
Sabrina Victoria founded Her Nation in 2021 as a community for women business owners, after losing her own community, family and friends at age 20.
DelegationEpisode 100How to Get More Done with Jessica Koch
Marketing consultant Jessica Koch hired three virtual assistants about three months into her business and paid them by project, telling them upfront what she could pay and when more work might come.
PurposeEpisode 99How I transformed the loss of a beloved dog into a tribute honoring all dogs with Jacqueline Bokor
Stylist and photographer Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor lost her home, her portfolios and her Vizsla, Boris, in a house fire after Boris barked until the family woke up.
BookkeepingEpisode 98How to "Excel Your Profits" and manage your money without adding hours to your day with Janet Ickes
Janet Ickes is a QuickBooks ProAdvisor who spent more than 20 years in corporate accounting and payroll before helping small business owners set up simple money systems.
HabitsEpisode 97How to Get Healthier with Strong Habits with Annie Gaudreault
Annie Gaudreault was the last kid picked in the schoolyard, then took up running because it fit a busy schedule and went on to finish 12 marathons and 3 Ironman triathlons.
CalmEpisode 95Rise Above "Year-End" Chaos with Carolyn Gross
Carolyn Gross, known as the Chaos Ninja, wrote her first book, Staying Calm in the Midst of Chaos, before 9/11 and has built her speaking business on that topic ever since.
MindsetEpisode 92Change your Thoughts, Change your Life with Francois Lupien
Francois Lupien got hired by Tony Robbins's team after being told they weren't hiring, by showing up at 9 a.m. in a suit and tie and waiting until a manager invited him in just before noon.
MindsetEpisode 87Stop Fixing Yourself: The Physics of Getting Unstuck with Jennifer Hough
Jennifer Hough, CEO of The Wide Awakening and author of UNSTUCK: The Physics of Getting Out of Your Own Way, calls her work Scientuality, a bridge between science and spirituality.
ReinventionEpisode 85How to Ride the Waves of an Entrepreneurial Life with Judy Wong
Transformation coach Judy Wong turned 60 in the middle of a busy international teaching career and found that everyone suddenly wanted to talk about her retirement.
Growing a business without burning out means putting systems, delegation and protected time in place before you add more clients.
On Organized and Energized! The Podcast, Kathi Burns asks every guest how they stay organized and what they would tell their younger self, so the practical answers pile up episode after episode.
The episodes in this collection cover time blocking, what to delegate first, why structure lets you relax into your work, and how one wellness practitioner tripled her rates and moved her practice abroad without working more hours.
Kathi Burns, CPO®, is a Business FLOW Strategist who has spent more than 20 years helping clients create systems they can stick to. Her guests here are business owners who scaled without the 100-hour weeks. Each episode page has a TL;DR, a question-by-question breakdown of the show notes, a full edited transcript, a checklist you can download and the guest's links.
What is the first system to build if I want to grow without burning out?
Start with the system that protects your own time, because everything else depends on it. Lia Dunlap gives herself the first block of every day for quiet time and does not take client calls before ten. Kathi's rule for the rest is simple: delegate what you hate, what you cannot do, and what is below your pay grade.
Does structure take away freedom in a creative business?
No. Structure is what gives a creative owner freedom, according to both Kathi Burns and her guests. When the routine parts of the business run on a system, you are not reacting all day, so the energy and attention go to the work only you can do. Lia Dunlap puts it as relaxing into the structure: she knows what comes next, so no energy is wasted.
How do I know whether my business is ready to scale?
Look at whether the business can run a week without you making every decision. If your calendar, your bookkeeping and your client intake all live in your head, you are not ready yet, and adding clients will add burnout. The episodes below show what the owners put in place first, and the Business Logjam Session is Kathi's 75-minute way of finding the one thing holding a business back.
Which articles go deeper on this?
- Steve Job's 10 Year Mistake: why working harder will not fix a stuck business
- 7 Healthy Habits for Entrepreneurs: the daily habits that keep an owner out of burnout
- Get Control of Your Time and Become More Productive: Kathi's method for time blocking a working week
Frequently asked questions
How did you scale your business without burning out?
+
The guests in this collection did it the same way: they built the systems first. Lia Dunlap hired a bookkeeper and a CPA early, uses a form for every client session so nothing is reinvented, and keeps her first time block each day for herself.
How can small business owners delegate effectively?
+
Kathi Burns's rule is to delegate what you hate, what you do not want to do, what you cannot do, and what is below your pay grade. Start with the basics, such as bookkeeping, and document the task once so the person you hand it to can repeat it.
What small steps can solo entrepreneurs take to prevent burnout?
+
Protect one block of time each day that is only yours, put personal time on the same calendar as client time so nothing takes it over, and say no to the work that pulls you off your main offer. Each episode page has a downloadable checklist with the specific steps the guest used.
Why does a wellness business need systems?
+
Because the owner is the product. Lia Dunlap, who works with massage therapists, homeopaths and other practitioners, says systems let her give every client her full attention: she knows what is coming next, so there is no wasted energy and no scramble between sessions.
Who are the guests in this collection?
- Lia Dunlap, intuitive business architect and CEO of Oracle On Purpose
- Carly Church, founder of We Got You Mama, maternal mental health advocate and author
- Ginny Priem, keynote speaker, master certified coach and author of Unsubscribe
- Stephanie Wall Morrow, wellness and lifestyle coach and founder of The Self-Care Circle
- Magdalena Grace, creator of The Healer's Healer and founder of Lotus Throne Business Coaching and Healing Sanctuary
- Andrew Thorp King, fintech banker, author of Failure Rules and founder of two independent record labels
- Daniela Wolfe, licensed master's social worker, author of Balance Breakthrough and founder of Best D Life
- Helene Rennervik, coach and consultant, creator of The Power of No Without Guilt
- Meg King, business coach and founder of Meg King Coaching & Consulting
- Anne Gordon, founder and leader of Whale and Dolphin Wisdom Retreats
- Sarah Melissa Oswald, relational leadership coach, celebrant and host of the Facets of Connection podcast
- Dr. Sophia Trevenna, intuitive executive coach, author and co-founder of Sofanya
- Annie Gaudreault, holistic nutritionist, women's health coach and founder of VEEV Health & Wellness
- Anna Felix, financial strategist who helps women and families prepare for the unexpected
- Nicole Connery, financial strategist and lifestyle designer at The Wealth Designer
- Tammy J Cohen, author of Text Messages to My Sons, brand messaging consultant and founder of Women Beyond the Table
- Dwayne Morton, former international basketball player, mindset strategist and founder of ShowUp2Win
- Trent True, online strategist and founder of Apex Compass Solutions
- Tammy Alvarez, founder and CEO of CWC Advisor (the Career Winners Circle) and former Wall Street executive
- Colleen Watson, legacy planner and founder of Century Plant Business Services
- Dawn Cortese, founder and CEO of Healthy Goals, Healthy Living; master life coach and certified nutrition coach
- Jim Shulman, business coach and founder of Elsinore Business Associates
- Sabrina Victoria, business strategist, speaker and founder of Her Nation
- Jessica Koch, sales and marketing consultant, international speaker and host of the Profound Professionals podcast
- Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor, stylist, photographer and creator of the dog keepsake book Remember Me As Sunshine
- Janet Ickes, bookkeeping consultant, QuickBooks ProAdvisor and founder of Excel With Me Training and Consulting
- Annie Gaudreault, holistic nutritionist, women's health coach and founder of VEEV Health & Wellness
- Carolyn Gross, keynote speaker and author known as the Chaos Ninja, of Creative Life Solutions
- Francois Lupien, business success and mindset coach, mentor and speaker, founder of How To Become More
- Jennifer Hough, cEO of The Wide Awakening and author of UNSTUCK: The Physics of Getting Out of Your Own Way
- Judy Wong, transformation coach for people over 60 and founder of The Life List Activation
What other questions does the show answer?
- How do I get more clients?
- How do I become known as an expert?
- How do I organize my home and closet?
Every episode on the show is on the podcast archive; every guest is in the guest directory. If your business needs more than a podcast, book a Business Logjam Session with Kathi.
Published · Updated